What does O'Brien mean when he says that true war stories are never about war? What does he mean when he writes, "That's a true story that never happened"?
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He is talking about how the true stories are the one's about just the men and how they bond and become friends and not how people are being blown into trees and stuff like that. When he says "Thats a true story that never happened." He is talking about how it is just that. A story and only a story, its made up.
He explains that war stories, if told right are about the sun and the grass. Since death is so close you are thankful for every living thing. So when they are walking around, they aren't thinking about the fighting and war, they are thinking about the beautiful sun and the lively trees.
I think what O'Brien means when he says that true war stories are never about war is that there is always something deeper in every war story. Like in his story about Lemon, he says that it wasn't a story about war, but a story about love. "That's a true story that never happened," means that when soldiers sometimes tell stories of what happened in the war some of them will be complete lies. But the story teller will insist and keep on insisting that the story is completely true.
O'Brien means that with war comes more than just killing and bombs what not, there comes something much more real and solid. Things such as love and friendship, thing that aren't necessarily just blood and violence. The stories of war are more about the relationships made and bonding that has happened during war that are often intertwined into the war stories. -Ariel :)
I think that he tells it the way a true story would sound, with all the gore and grusomness. Because of the way it sounds so real it seems like it could be a true story though it might not actually be.
When he says that true war sories are never about war he means that they are about more then that. They are about what happeneds between people in the war. They are moer about the emotions and trials that they go through. When he says "Thats a true story that never happened" he means that all stories get twisted around. You can only remember so much about something so you just make up the rest.
i think that when he says war stories are never about war they are about being proud in what they are fighting for like their family friends AND enemies. When he says, "Thats a true story that never happened.", he means that that particular story never happened but it has happened before some where in some form. -Jessica
When he says that he just means that they are simply stories. Usually about death or love but not just on war. It may have happened within the war and about the war but thats not it. Slodiers are of course in the war mind set but what happens at the war doesnt necessarily have to be about the war. I guess what I am trying to say is the point or moral of these stories are not war. When he says the true story thing he is saying there is some truth in the story but truth is not all it is. It is also a story. Malori
I have to say that I agree with Cory in very similar ways. War stories are never about war because they can also tell stories about love, frendship, and bonding with one another through tough times. When O'Brien talks about a true story that never happened, he is talking about both love and war. It may be something that happened because the soldiers became friends and actually bonded. It may be considered a false story as well because the war parts of the book may have been made up.
When O'brien says that tur war stories are never about war he's means that war stories are about the men and their bond, and the things that are going on in the war but not the war it's self
For example when he tells the lady about the baby water buffalo story she makes a comment about how sad it is...about the baby buffalo but O'brien was telling that story as a love story....the bonds between men, almost brother like. When these stories are told no one see's them as love stories or anythin else they can possible be but war stories
He means the a ture war story has a deeper meaning. I believe he means to send the message that war is ugly and pretty at the same time. He is trying to say you cant tell a true war story because it to real to people to much for people to handle a cope with that why noone can tell or hear a real story of war -- Steven W Pollard
I think that most war stories tend to become exaggerated over time. People like to make up stories that make them appear to be a hero, or bigger than they really are, when in fact they may have been a coward or not as involved as they want people to believe. I think other times they want to sugar coat everything as a way for them to forget what really went on. I think that is what O'Brien means when he says "That's a true story that never happened."
O'Brien is trying to say that it's not just te war that is the story it's about the persona life of the the soldiers before the war. Whether they had love, family, trajedy,etc. When O'Brien writes that he means that nothing wil ever known to be true to a fact because either the men that were there are over exagerating or they are dead and people hear rumors and the story becomes so fake that people tell it anyway as a great war story.
As stated on page 45, O'brien says, " A true war story is never moral. It does not instruct, nor encourage virtue, nor suggest models of proper human behavior, nor restrain men from doing the things men have always done. When saying, " A true war story is never moral." o'brien is reffering to how the soldiers during the vietnam era really did not follow a rule of conduct so to speak, basically like a right of conduct.
I think what O'Brien is trying to say when he says true war stories is never about war is war is only a little part of the big picture. There is so much more to be learned in war then just killng, there are things like love and frienship. Each soldier has there own story each story means something different for everyone. Amanda
He's saying that A true war story is not this pretty story, it's about the truth, of what happened. And it's not moral, and it's also about the bonds the guys in the war had. It's also about their friendships.
The author was exspresing that a true love story are the ones that are not bueatified to make a person to feel better. That people can only handle the stroies that are true, but he believes that people need to hear the truth or no one will be in formed.
I think O brien means that war can also be about love. And the love between different soldiers. " But in the truth war is also beauty."(pg80) It explaines that war can be fun but awful. He explains that war is not exactly pretty, but it can be very astonishing and it can make a man when being in a war. Chelsea PInkerman
O'Brien was talking about the men and how they become brothers and the bond they create while in war. When he says "that's a true war story that never happened" he means that it might have happened but it was altered and it isn't the same story that people tell it as. He gave an example that a man jumped on a grenade to save his buddies but his buddies died anyways. Tyler
When O'Brien says that true war stories are never about war, he is refering to the way in which the soldier's stories are never about the war because they only see their own direct view of their war, their own little piece of a big event. So their stories are never directlly about the war itself, but of their own occurances within the war. However, I disagree with O'Brien. Because of the fact that all of the occurances happen as part of the war, even though it is not always a large part of it. When he says that its a true story that never happend, he means that the origional events were true, but that they have been constorted to become a much larger story.
I belive that all of the war stories that people are over glorified to make the person that they are telling it to seem more interested and to make them look more heroic. What realy could have happened is that they were stuck somewere with no action and they don't want to go back home without something interesting to say. -chris austin
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He is talking about how the true stories are the one's about just the men and how they bond and become friends and not how people are being blown into trees and stuff like that. When he says "Thats a true story that never happened." He is talking about how it is just that. A story and only a story, its made up.
Cory C.
He explains that war stories, if told right are about the sun and the grass. Since death is so close you are thankful for every living thing. So when they are walking around, they aren't thinking about the fighting and war, they are thinking about the beautiful sun and the lively trees.
I think what O'Brien means when he says that true war stories are never about war is that there is always something deeper in every war story. Like in his story about Lemon, he says that it wasn't a story about war, but a story about love.
"That's a true story that never happened," means that when soldiers sometimes tell stories of what happened in the war some of them will be complete lies. But the story teller will insist and keep on insisting that the story is completely true.
O'Brien means that with war comes more than just killing and bombs what not, there comes something much more real and solid. Things such as love and friendship, thing that aren't necessarily just blood and violence. The stories of war are more about the relationships made and bonding that has happened during war that are often intertwined into the war stories.
-Ariel :)
I think that he tells it the way a true story would sound, with all the gore and grusomness. Because of the way it sounds so real it seems like it could be a true story though it might not actually be.
-Sam G.
When he says that true war sories are never about war he means that they are about more then that. They are about what happeneds between people in the war. They are moer about the emotions and trials that they go through. When he says "Thats a true story that never happened" he means that all stories get twisted around. You can only remember so much about something so you just make up the rest.
Brittani
i think that when he says war stories are never about war they are about being proud in what they are fighting for like their family friends AND enemies. When he says, "Thats a true story that never happened.", he means that that particular story never happened but it has happened before some where in some form.
-Jessica
When he says that he just means that they are simply stories. Usually about death or love but not just on war. It may have happened within the war and about the war but thats not it. Slodiers are of course in the war mind set but what happens at the war doesnt necessarily have to be about the war. I guess what I am trying to say is the point or moral of these stories are not war. When he says the true story thing he is saying there is some truth in the story but truth is not all it is. It is also a story.
Malori
I have to say that I agree with Cory in very similar ways. War stories are never about war because they can also tell stories about love, frendship, and bonding with one another through tough times.
When O'Brien talks about a true story that never happened, he is talking about both love and war. It may be something that happened because the soldiers became friends and actually bonded. It may be considered a false story as well because the war parts of the book may have been made up.
Brad C
When O'brien says that tur war stories are never about war he's means that war stories are about the men and their bond, and the things that are going on in the war but not the war it's self
For example when he tells the lady about the baby water buffalo story she makes a comment about how sad it is...about the baby buffalo but O'brien was telling that story as a love story....the bonds between men, almost brother like. When these stories are told no one see's them as love stories or anythin else they can possible be but war stories
Jennifer DeHart
He means the a ture war story has a deeper meaning. I believe he means to send the message that war is ugly and pretty at the same time. He is trying to say you cant tell a true war story because it to real to people to much for people to handle a cope with that why noone can tell or hear a real story of war
-- Steven W Pollard
I think that most war stories tend to become exaggerated over time. People like to make up stories that make them appear to be a hero, or bigger than they really are, when in fact they may have been a coward or not as involved as they want people to believe. I think other times they want to sugar coat everything as a way for them to forget what really went on. I think that is what O'Brien means when he says "That's a true story that never happened."
Jared B.
O'Brien is trying to say that it's not just te war that is the story it's about the persona life of the the soldiers before the war. Whether they had love, family, trajedy,etc. When O'Brien writes that he means that nothing wil ever known to be true to a fact because either the men that were there are over exagerating or they are dead and people hear rumors and the story becomes so fake that people tell it anyway as a great war story.
--Tim
As stated on page 45, O'brien says, " A true war story is never moral. It does not instruct, nor encourage virtue, nor suggest models of proper human behavior, nor restrain men from doing the things men have always done. When saying, " A true war story is never moral." o'brien is reffering to how the soldiers during the vietnam era really did not follow a rule of conduct so to speak, basically like a right of conduct.
Chris Booth
I think what O'Brien is trying to say when he says true war stories is never about war is war is only a little part of the big picture. There is so much more to be learned in war then just killng, there are things like love and frienship. Each soldier has there own story each story means something different for everyone.
Amanda
He's saying that A true war story is not this pretty story, it's about the truth, of what happened. And it's not moral, and it's also about the bonds the guys in the war had. It's also about their friendships.
The author was exspresing that a true love story are the ones that are not bueatified to make a person to feel better. That people can only handle the stroies that are true, but he believes that people need to hear the truth or no one will be in formed.
mandy
I think O brien means that war can also be about love. And the love between different soldiers. " But in the truth war is also beauty."(pg80) It explaines that war can be fun but awful. He explains that war is not exactly pretty, but it can be very astonishing and it can make a man when being in a war.
Chelsea PInkerman
O'Brien was talking about the men and how they become brothers and the bond they create while in war. When he says "that's a true war story that never happened" he means that it might have happened but it was altered and it isn't the same story that people tell it as. He gave an example that a man jumped on a grenade to save his buddies but his buddies died anyways.
Tyler
When O'Brien says that true war stories are never about war, he is refering to the way in which the soldier's stories are never about the war because they only see their own direct view of their war, their own little piece of a big event. So their stories are never directlly about the war itself, but of their own occurances within the war.
However, I disagree with O'Brien. Because of the fact that all of the occurances happen as part of the war, even though it is not always a large part of it.
When he says that its a true story that never happend, he means that the origional events were true, but that they have been constorted to become a much larger story.
I belive that all of the war stories that people are over glorified to make the person that they are telling it to seem more interested and to make them look more heroic. What realy could have happened is that they were stuck somewere with no action and they don't want to go back home without something interesting to say.
-chris austin
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